Dave Hplly Hour Episode 214 January 25, 2024

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,120Music.200:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,320Gifts, Chaser's Food and Spirits, Excel Chiropractic, Quality Nails,300:00:20,460 --> 00:00:24,100Jesse Moffitt Entertainment, and the Sioux Falls Arts Council.400:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,520The Dave Holley Hour features Sioux Empire arts and entertainment conversations.500:00:24,560 --> 00:00:36,720Music.600:00:29,460 --> 00:00:34,120A true lover of arts, entertainment, good food, and fun times,700:00:34,300 --> 00:00:36,660including an occasional Jack Daniels.800:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,020Okay, so a few Jack Daniels. Here he is, Dave Holley.900:00:44,340 --> 00:00:49,080Welcome, one and all. Great to have you along, as today we will be speaking1000:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,620to JAS Quintet saxophonist Joel Shotwell.1100:00:55,060 --> 00:01:00,280They're going to be playing Saturday night in Flandreau at the Crystal Theater. Fun place to play.1200:01:00,520 --> 00:01:06,520Joel stopped by the Dipsy Doodle production studio this week before it became1300:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,460the Dripsy Doodle studio. You see, there's this warmer weather,1400:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,180you know, to get up a freezing that we all wanted so bad.1500:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,660If you hear water dripping in the background, it's snow melting coming through the window.1600:01:21,780 --> 00:01:25,600Thankfully, able to move audio equipment out of the way.1700:01:25,700 --> 00:01:30,860And it could also be called the dripsy studio due to my runny nose.1800:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,480Thank you so much. First cold of the year, said Mr. Sarcasm. Hmm.1900:01:36,165 --> 00:01:39,605I do need to update you on a concern of mine.2000:01:39,925 --> 00:01:46,205A couple of weeks back, I woke up with basically the equivalent of that big2100:01:46,205 --> 00:01:49,285smoke monster from the TV show Lost in my right eye.2200:01:49,505 --> 00:01:54,025That's how bad the floaters were and so forth, dust bunnies and stuff like that,2300:01:54,125 --> 00:01:57,985you know, very limited vision and couldn't focus in on things.2400:01:58,165 --> 00:02:02,485So I was hoping it would simply go away, as floaters typically do.2500:02:02,485 --> 00:02:06,865So a few days later, I was able to get into the Sanford Optical Clinic because2600:02:06,865 --> 00:02:07,785things weren't improving.2700:02:08,505 --> 00:02:11,605And then a week after that, which would have been last Friday morning,2800:02:11,785 --> 00:02:16,685the eye surgeon looked me straight in the eye.2900:02:17,685 --> 00:02:22,325You'll like that pun intended, huh? And said there were four choices,3000:02:22,545 --> 00:02:28,425two of which would have put me in the situation of maybe a 50% chance of going blind.3100:02:28,425 --> 00:02:33,725So, I went with what was behind door number four, which was the whole shebang.3200:02:34,185 --> 00:02:41,605So, here's the process. In order to prevent my left eye from possibly having the same issue,3300:02:41,845 --> 00:02:46,545she lasered it, and I got injections in both eyes, and I got back,3400:02:46,585 --> 00:02:49,385or I go back, rather, February 14th.3500:02:49,705 --> 00:02:54,505And if the left eye is doing well, and the right eye has been clearing some,3600:02:54,765 --> 00:02:57,505she will most likely laser that one.3700:02:58,425 --> 00:03:03,565And while they do numb the area, there is still some pain involved with the laser.3800:03:03,725 --> 00:03:07,585I made it through, didn't have to ask her to stop, but it's a different type3900:03:07,585 --> 00:03:11,485of pain. Oh my, don't want to have to do it again, but I'm going to.4000:03:11,765 --> 00:03:15,565Because if all goes well, I should have a restored vision.4100:03:16,265 --> 00:03:22,085All right, in the meantime though, I can't drive or work.4200:03:22,845 --> 00:03:26,245Typing, texting, reading, all quite difficult.4300:03:26,245 --> 00:03:32,945I had to cancel trivia the past week, but hoping with the large screen TV and4400:03:32,945 --> 00:03:37,725an iPad that I can put right in front of my eyes, I'll be able to make it through4500:03:37,725 --> 00:03:39,025that this coming Monday.4600:03:39,365 --> 00:03:45,205The heartbreaker, though, was having to bow out of being in this year's premiere premieres.4700:03:45,505 --> 00:03:50,645Tough to memorize lines, and with balance and depth perception being off as4800:03:50,645 --> 00:03:54,025well, blocking directions would have been very trying.4900:03:54,025 --> 00:04:00,125Not to mention the fact that the day that they open would be a day after my5000:04:00,125 --> 00:04:02,025next most likely eye surgery.5100:04:02,665 --> 00:04:07,965But since I can still talk, a little bit at least, we trudge on with this show5200:04:07,965 --> 00:04:09,805because at least I can talk.5300:04:10,165 --> 00:04:13,565Joel Shotwell coming up in just a few minutes.5400:04:13,985 --> 00:04:17,305But first, let's pop the cork on this bubbly little show.5500:04:18,160 --> 00:04:55,280Music.5600:04:55,124 --> 00:05:00,544Whatever you're drinking, whatever you're drinking it from might very well be5700:05:00,544 --> 00:05:03,144determined by where and when you're listening.5800:05:03,244 --> 00:05:09,584My choice, my choice, of course, is a Jasper Newton Jack Daniels Diet Coke with Lime.5900:05:09,684 --> 00:05:13,624For you, whether it's a cup of coffee, glass of milk, bottle of water,6000:05:13,884 --> 00:05:17,944mug of beer or cocktail, glass of wine or a flute of champagne,6100:05:18,344 --> 00:05:23,004lift it high and toast it to those that care.6200:05:23,004 --> 00:05:26,224You know, those friends that wonder how you're doing.6300:05:26,524 --> 00:05:29,244Ask if you need anything. Can I give you a ride?6400:05:29,824 --> 00:05:34,564Or they can sense that while you might be shrugging off a situation,6500:05:34,844 --> 00:05:38,784but know there's more to it. So cheers to caring people.6600:05:39,404 --> 00:05:43,104Speaking of cheers, if you were a fan of the old sitcom cheers,6700:05:43,384 --> 00:05:48,884then you're going to love Chaser's Food and Beverage, West 12th and Ellis Road.6800:05:49,204 --> 00:05:53,904The friendly staff will get to know you by name and provide you with great food6900:05:53,904 --> 00:05:56,104and drink and lots of smiles.7000:05:56,524 --> 00:06:00,184Monday night, Dave Holley, our trivia, cross your fingers at Jesus.7100:06:00,644 --> 00:06:04,684Starting at 7 and this coming Monday night, the trivia theme will be Double7200:06:04,684 --> 00:06:06,864Down, all about the twos.7300:06:07,144 --> 00:06:11,784If that sounds like a repeat from last week, it was, because we never got to do the Double Down.7400:06:11,944 --> 00:06:16,184So we're doubling down on the fact that Dave will do trivia this coming Monday. day.7500:06:17,104 --> 00:06:23,264What over the past week made Dave laugh, guffaw, chuckle, chortle,7600:06:23,264 --> 00:06:26,784giggle, smile, or maybe even shed a tear of joy,7700:06:27,044 --> 00:06:32,584that would go to those great people that just make stuff up. Improv Falls.7800:06:33,404 --> 00:06:39,244Now, while my sight was horrible, etc., I could at least hear Improv Falls,7900:06:39,364 --> 00:06:42,904and I, you know, could put a hand down, and the distance I was from,8000:06:42,944 --> 00:06:46,204I could tell who each of them was, that that type of thing.8100:06:46,544 --> 00:06:50,984But, you know, when you've gone through something and you just need a good laugh,8200:06:51,124 --> 00:06:57,024and if you're ever in need of a good laugh, you see that Improv Falls is playing somewhere, go.8300:06:57,984 --> 00:06:59,984You will be thankful for it.8400:07:00,850 --> 00:07:06,530Coming up next, JAS Quintet saxophonist Joel Shotwell on the Dave Holley Hour.8500:07:06,770 --> 00:07:10,770Get ready to unleash your creativity and spread the love.8600:07:11,190 --> 00:07:15,670Introducing the latest art movement that's sure to capture your heart, love.8700:07:16,070 --> 00:07:19,070Artists of all backgrounds, it's your time to shine.8800:07:19,190 --> 00:07:24,450Channel your passion and express the boundless facets of love through your unique creations.8900:07:24,950 --> 00:07:29,170Whether it's a canvas masterpiece, a photograph, or a sculpture that speaks9000:07:29,170 --> 00:07:34,470volumes, We want to see your interpretation of love in all its form.9100:07:34,690 --> 00:07:38,850This is not just a call for art. It's an invitation to share your perspective9200:07:38,850 --> 00:07:41,850on one of the most powerful emotions known to humanity.9300:07:42,390 --> 00:07:45,390Love transcends boundaries, and so does art.9400:07:46,110 --> 00:07:51,390Let your imagination run wild and submit your masterpiece to be part of something extraordinary.9500:07:52,050 --> 00:07:56,710The Call for Art Love is open to artists all around. Don't miss your chance9600:07:56,710 --> 00:08:01,630to be featured in a showcase at Serendipity Studio in Sioux Falls that celebrates9700:08:01,630 --> 00:08:03,510the universal language of love.9800:08:03,770 --> 00:08:08,590Your art could inspire, uplift, and resonate with hearts around the globe.9900:08:08,850 --> 00:08:10,670Join us in this artistic celebration.10000:08:11,210 --> 00:08:16,430Visit our website at serendipitystudiosd.com for submission details,10100:08:16,790 --> 00:08:22,430deadlines, and more. 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The process is simple.12300:09:53,352 --> 00:09:58,672Find out more about the Sioux Falls Arts Council as well online at artssouffalls.org.12400:10:00,720 --> 00:10:11,760Music.12500:10:01,932 --> 00:10:06,712The Dave Hawley Hour, like eavesdropping on a great conversation between two12600:10:06,712 --> 00:10:08,012very interesting people.12700:10:09,532 --> 00:10:12,692Welcome back, everybody. Oh, my goodness.12800:10:12,832 --> 00:10:19,312It is always so great. It is such a pleasure to talk Sioux Empire arts and entertainment.12900:10:19,532 --> 00:10:22,932Always great to have a guest back from time to time.13000:10:23,512 --> 00:10:28,952And, well, this guy's made a few multiple turns here around the wheel with Dave13100:10:28,952 --> 00:10:31,812Holley Hour Joel Shotwell, how are you, my friend?13200:10:32,012 --> 00:10:34,512I'm good, how are you doing? Glad to hear that I'm doing well,13300:10:34,712 --> 00:10:39,852yeah And it's great to have you And, you know, here we are, it's Thursday and13400:10:39,852 --> 00:10:44,332you're going to be playing this weekend Yeah, we get to play with JAS Quintet13500:10:44,332 --> 00:10:46,712at the Flandreau Crystal Theater.13600:10:48,067 --> 00:10:52,147And that's what JS doesn't get to play in Sioux Falls a whole ton,13700:10:52,287 --> 00:10:56,407uh, just cause it's quintet and we do like kind of our own thing.13800:10:56,467 --> 00:11:00,847So it's not kind of, it's usually not in the corner background music,13900:11:00,887 --> 00:11:03,147although we do it and we love playing with each other no matter what,14000:11:03,247 --> 00:11:06,967but, uh, it's kind of nice when it's special in a theater because we get to do our thing for real.14100:11:07,067 --> 00:11:11,407And it's kind of the setting that, that size of group was meant to be in.14200:11:11,547 --> 00:11:14,207So have you played there before? We have. Okay. Yeah.14300:11:14,667 --> 00:11:18,107It's a great little show there once and loved it. Yep. Yep. Yeah.14400:11:18,187 --> 00:11:20,987It's like one of these gems that exist all over the state.14500:11:21,027 --> 00:11:24,447Actually, these, a lot of these small towns have these theaters and they've14600:11:24,447 --> 00:11:29,527kind of people work in the town to keep them going or people will like re revitalize14700:11:29,527 --> 00:11:30,347them and stuff like that.14800:11:30,467 --> 00:11:34,127Yeah. Well, my hometown of Rock Rapids is hoping to do that at some point. That would be awesome.14900:11:34,347 --> 00:11:38,207Got a lot of work to go on that one yet. Yep. Yeah. So that is a fun place.15000:11:38,227 --> 00:11:40,847The Crystal Theater in Flandreau. Yep.15100:11:40,967 --> 00:11:44,547Yeah. And what's so great about it is you go out there and, you know,15200:11:44,547 --> 00:11:48,207the marquee that's still out there and so forth. Always a fun, fun time.15300:11:48,467 --> 00:11:51,987It is. All right. So who will be involved in the quintet at this time about?15400:11:52,027 --> 00:11:58,807The quintet is Jeff Paul on piano, Andrew Reinhart on bass, Jim Spears on trumpet,15500:11:58,967 --> 00:12:02,507Dan Heyer on drums, and myself on saxophone.15600:12:02,707 --> 00:12:06,407All right. You know, I've been thinking about this the other day because I was15700:12:06,407 --> 00:12:10,527listening to some Golden Oldies and there were some sax parts in it.15800:12:10,567 --> 00:12:13,787And I know we always talk, you know, when you are around, it's usually we're15900:12:13,787 --> 00:12:21,147talking talking jazz and who your saxophone influencers were from the jazz area and so forth.16000:12:21,227 --> 00:12:27,467But are there some great solos on the saxophone that you hear from time to time16100:12:27,467 --> 00:12:32,727in pop music that you go, Oh man, I got to do that. Yeah. I mean.16200:12:33,708 --> 00:12:38,408Sometimes like in pop music, I, I, it kind of, there, there's only like a couple16300:12:38,408 --> 00:12:41,968that really, where I get that feeling where you're saying like, oh yeah, I got to do that.16400:12:42,048 --> 00:12:46,548And one of them is like, you know, Wayne Shorter's solo on Asia, Steely Dan.16500:12:46,548 --> 00:12:53,208And that, when I heard I was, that totally helped open my mind to the idea of16600:12:53,208 --> 00:12:57,048like more pop saxophone in a way, but it's hard.16700:12:57,128 --> 00:13:01,228Like I, I totally respect it. And part of it is like, I, when I,16800:13:01,228 --> 00:13:05,588when I do, and I've tried to practice it and mimic that sort of style,16900:13:05,828 --> 00:13:07,708I don't really quite feel right.17000:13:07,748 --> 00:13:10,068Like it connects with me very much.17100:13:10,568 --> 00:13:13,768Not that it, it never bothers me either. Like every time I hear it,17200:13:13,768 --> 00:13:15,128I'm like, that is absolutely perfect.17300:13:15,128 --> 00:13:18,468No one should ever ask me to do that because like i17400:13:18,468 --> 00:13:21,608can't like i like it's like i don't find i'm17500:13:21,608 --> 00:13:24,688not compelled to like work right that towards17600:13:24,688 --> 00:13:29,968that but yeah there's like at like tom scott like at the stuff he does he's17700:13:29,968 --> 00:13:33,268done tons of stuff and i'm sure you've heard like he was on all sorts of 80s17800:13:33,268 --> 00:13:37,248records and does solo stuff and every time i hear him it's usually he was on17900:13:37,248 --> 00:13:40,568that zilli daniel album too and it's usually like whoa this is somebody who18000:13:40,568 --> 00:13:43,848does this the best as they can And it's like, is it lute to back?18100:13:43,888 --> 00:13:47,428And I think on SNL, like, holy crap, like that's insane.18200:13:47,688 --> 00:13:53,028Like, and I just can't, it's like an attitude, right? Like, and I admire it18300:13:53,028 --> 00:13:55,108and respect it, but I don't have that sort of attitude.18400:13:56,308 --> 00:13:59,568But to answer your question, yeah, that Wayne Shorter one is the only one that's18500:13:59,568 --> 00:14:02,108really got me where I'm like, oh, like that's. I have to.18600:14:02,308 --> 00:14:06,448Yeah, I would, I would love to be in those shoes, you know?18700:14:07,088 --> 00:14:11,628All right. but in the meantime in the shoes that you are in jas how many years18800:14:11,628 --> 00:14:17,348you guys been around now wow hmm people it's probably kind of like cliche to18900:14:17,348 --> 00:14:19,928to say like oh i'm not quite.19000:14:21,208 --> 00:14:30,268Sure yeah but i actually am i'm trying to think like probably 15 years uh we've19100:14:30,268 --> 00:14:33,028awesome we've all been playing together for probably close to,19200:14:33,808 --> 00:14:37,028close to 20 years like in some aspect right19300:14:37,028 --> 00:14:40,448the jas was an accident kind not19400:14:40,448 --> 00:14:44,288an accident we put the five of us together for a reason but you19500:14:44,288 --> 00:14:48,648know it became jas and then it kind of just stuck that way like those things19600:14:48,648 --> 00:14:53,688do uh because why not like oh we've been using it let's just use it so with19700:14:53,688 --> 00:14:58,868that particular configuration of those five guys it's probably been 10 to 1519800:14:58,868 --> 00:15:03,268years okay wow and And how many, do you still call them an album?19900:15:03,948 --> 00:15:07,968I do, yeah. And we do other stuff too. Because you've got one up in a frame20000:15:07,968 --> 00:15:09,608even up there. Oh, thank you. Yeah.20100:15:09,728 --> 00:15:13,748Wow, that's awesome. And now I actually have a turntable that I can play shit20200:15:13,748 --> 00:15:16,128on. Sweet. That's awesome.20300:15:17,308 --> 00:15:21,928Yeah. Sorry, I got lost. Yeah, so how many albums have you been putting out then?20400:15:22,028 --> 00:15:30,028Well, we've done as a band together too, but we've also done an album we played with Jamie Lynn on.20500:15:30,028 --> 00:15:35,368That was hers we played on like half of one of hers we've also done little recording20600:15:35,368 --> 00:15:42,488projects for for little things not like full albums so and there's always stuff on the horizon,20700:15:43,168 --> 00:15:46,328or ideas like oh we could do this or we could do this you know20800:15:46,328 --> 00:15:49,448when we do an album with the jas quintet20900:15:49,448 --> 00:15:52,968it is a true jazz quintet and21000:15:52,968 --> 00:15:55,988we it's meant to be live so right21100:15:55,988 --> 00:16:00,108the recording a thing like that is worthy of21200:16:00,108 --> 00:16:02,908putting on a final album we have to21300:16:02,908 --> 00:16:05,588do it in a setting where it's like let's get the best sounds we21400:16:05,588 --> 00:16:08,368can so it's a little more involved so it doesn't happen21500:16:08,368 --> 00:16:11,348as often right yeah it's not like you know people putting21600:16:11,348 --> 00:16:17,228out uh albums because part a was done in somebody's home part b was done and21700:16:17,228 --> 00:16:20,668they all just find somebody to put it all together and go oh yeah it's nice21800:16:20,668 --> 00:16:25,008mix yeah yep yeah which is a cool way to do it too like my last album we all21900:16:25,008 --> 00:16:29,568recorded separately and did it that way. But with the quintet.22000:16:30,693 --> 00:16:36,373It's just a different thing, so. Right. But yeah, we've been able to get some22100:16:36,373 --> 00:16:40,573good live recordings of each other too, and that's been fun to listen.22200:16:40,613 --> 00:16:42,473Is this your favorite group to be in?22300:16:42,693 --> 00:16:47,613I think, yeah, I mean. Because you play in a variety of different bands and so forth.22400:16:47,633 --> 00:16:52,053It's hard to say that like the favorite, but it definitely feels the most comfortable22500:16:52,053 --> 00:16:53,513and at home. The most personable?22600:16:53,753 --> 00:16:57,193The most, yeah. Yeah. And I mean, all the groups that I tend to play with,22700:16:57,233 --> 00:16:58,833because I'm really picky,22800:16:59,553 --> 00:17:03,433I don't, it really matters to me where I spend my time, you know,22900:17:03,473 --> 00:17:07,113like, and I know that sounds like really stuffy, maybe, I don't know,23000:17:07,153 --> 00:17:12,973but I don't, I don't want to leave my family to go spend time with people I don't love, you know?23100:17:13,333 --> 00:17:18,473So like when I play with, you know, anybody else, the Hags, John Bakken,23200:17:18,533 --> 00:17:21,053now I've played with some and other groups,23300:17:21,173 --> 00:17:26,973it's always going to be people that I'm all in, but JAS definitely feels like23400:17:26,973 --> 00:17:29,293the most, when we play together, it's like, oh, yeah,23500:17:30,653 --> 00:17:36,113it matters that we've been speaking to each other in a musical way for 10 to 15 years.23600:17:36,313 --> 00:17:39,973What do you like about everybody that's in your group? Well, I don't like them.23700:17:41,933 --> 00:17:46,653Not the feeling you love them. Nothing, nothing. Those dirty bastards.23800:17:47,633 --> 00:17:51,593No. No. do you23900:17:51,593 --> 00:17:54,493want me to tell you what i like best about each one of them that would24000:17:54,493 --> 00:17:59,833be wonderful okay okay i like that idea okay yeah24100:17:59,833 --> 00:18:02,693so as a professional on a24200:18:02,693 --> 00:18:05,933professional level i'll start with andrew and then24300:18:05,933 --> 00:18:09,733i'll talk about their personal okay okay so andrew would24400:18:09,733 --> 00:18:13,553be on the professional level obviously he plays upright24500:18:13,553 --> 00:18:16,493bass and electric bass really really good24600:18:16,493 --> 00:18:22,413professional level too he can communicate really really really well in fact24700:18:22,413 --> 00:18:26,733like a lot of times i have to i run things through him or bounce ideas about24800:18:26,733 --> 00:18:30,253communication off of him because i feel like that's probably one of my weakest24900:18:30,253 --> 00:18:34,573points then he has a lot of experience that way also like if something goes wrong,25000:18:35,153 --> 00:18:41,353in a musical setting especially when it comes to technology or any setting musically25100:18:41,353 --> 00:18:44,773which happens all the time you're setting up you're sound checking things are25200:18:44,773 --> 00:18:49,673going wrong he can He can usually kind of burrow in and figure those things25300:18:49,673 --> 00:18:52,073out. And he does a good job. Yeah.25400:18:52,653 --> 00:18:57,713On a personal level, he's just, you know, we camp together.25500:18:57,953 --> 00:19:02,933I go stay at his cabin. You know, like we're raising children and we bounce.25600:19:03,013 --> 00:19:05,013We talk about those. We have cigars. Yeah.25700:19:05,802 --> 00:19:11,462Yeah. I mean, I just like his honesty. So Jeff, Jeff Paul, the piano player25800:19:11,462 --> 00:19:16,382on a professional level, he's, he's one of the most interesting piano players25900:19:16,382 --> 00:19:17,682that I've ever played with.26000:19:18,022 --> 00:19:25,682He can, because he is open and we've done this for so long and he's patient with someone like me,26100:19:25,762 --> 00:19:29,422how I, that's how I feel is he's been patient with me along my growth,26200:19:29,462 --> 00:19:32,242you know, and I know he doesn't feel like that, but, but not26300:19:32,242 --> 00:19:35,022doesn't feel like he's fathering or anything like that but26400:19:35,022 --> 00:19:38,042you know what i mean like but you i'm trying to be overly humble26500:19:38,042 --> 00:19:41,242right yeah i feel comfortable taking risks but he26600:19:41,242 --> 00:19:43,942likes that and he'll go there and he and we26700:19:43,942 --> 00:19:47,122can kind of discover it what's fun is that you know26800:19:47,122 --> 00:19:50,822we all tend to go have our own dialect so professionally man26900:19:50,822 --> 00:19:53,482he he listens so closely he27000:19:53,482 --> 00:19:56,942knows exactly where i am in a musical phrase27100:19:56,942 --> 00:19:59,802or idea even if i'm abstract i of27200:19:59,802 --> 00:20:02,782feel like he knows what kind of abstraction i'm drawing from27300:20:02,782 --> 00:20:05,542tech like just as far.27400:20:05,542 --> 00:20:09,122As like theoretical ear knowledge like also27500:20:09,122 --> 00:20:12,362if i'm moving in a pattern that's like27600:20:12,362 --> 00:20:15,342logical but not typical27700:20:15,342 --> 00:20:18,162he knows what that sounds like and he goes there with27800:20:18,162 --> 00:20:21,282me that's the whole point of the music you know27900:20:21,282 --> 00:20:24,042like there's a reason why some people play28000:20:24,042 --> 00:20:27,622together all the time because they figured each other out you know so28100:20:27,622 --> 00:20:30,542he i feel on a professional level that's jeff28200:20:30,542 --> 00:20:33,822and he brings a lot of music to the table uh personal28300:20:33,822 --> 00:20:37,202level same thing with we have cigars you28400:20:37,202 --> 00:20:39,942know i went and saw his concerto tried to get as close28500:20:39,942 --> 00:20:42,922as i could i made jokes that me and riley were28600:20:42,922 --> 00:20:48,042gonna my daughter we're gonna throw things at him anyway yeah28700:20:48,042 --> 00:20:50,862we we just are good good friends which is you know28800:20:50,862 --> 00:20:53,802will be a common theme with every member of the band he has a28900:20:53,802 --> 00:20:56,542a fine collection of hats too great collection of29000:20:56,542 --> 00:20:59,402hats and i like his like kind of29100:20:59,402 --> 00:21:03,322just passion about different things other than music because29200:21:03,322 --> 00:21:06,102it's nice to know that i'm not the only weirdo out there29300:21:06,102 --> 00:21:08,842that likes to obsess over other things you know29400:21:08,842 --> 00:21:11,882you talk about the professionalism of those two especially29500:21:11,882 --> 00:21:17,462andrew and jeff being in the south dakota symphony orchestra as well and absolutely29600:21:17,462 --> 00:21:22,802knowledge that they have from from that and you know and by the way jeff is29700:21:22,802 --> 00:21:26,942usually playing like an oboe or something when it comes to that yep so you know29800:21:26,942 --> 00:21:30,102that it's the knowledge of other instruments it's the knowledge of how.29900:21:30,802 --> 00:21:35,362Music in a classical way can be put together but by the same token doing jazz30000:21:35,362 --> 00:21:41,502and how it can be improv yep yeah yeah i mean the more you know of any about30100:21:41,502 --> 00:21:42,862the more you know the better,30200:21:43,602 --> 00:21:47,242your ideas are, you know, like, and it can come from any place,30300:21:47,342 --> 00:21:49,262you know, musically or outside of that.30400:21:49,322 --> 00:21:52,742I think it's, that's really cool to know people like that. Yeah.30500:21:52,902 --> 00:21:57,502All right. Moving on. Dan Heyer. Oh yes. Drummer Dan. Yeah. Drummer Dan professionally,30600:21:57,722 --> 00:22:00,682like you can always leave it up to Dan.30700:22:00,902 --> 00:22:04,622Like, you know, like I have ideas, like a lot of times.30800:22:05,595 --> 00:22:08,995You know, everybody works a little differently. And what I noticed first with30900:22:08,995 --> 00:22:13,315Dan professionally is that I used to maybe, and I don't know,31000:22:13,375 --> 00:22:16,135you never know how you come across, but I used to be like, oh,31100:22:16,135 --> 00:22:18,315I was thinking about drums like this. Maybe this could work.31200:22:18,615 --> 00:22:25,695But with, with Dan, I can just say, oh yeah, it's kind of like faster and like,31300:22:25,715 --> 00:22:29,755just kind of like throw like real abstract and then just know that he's going31400:22:29,755 --> 00:22:31,335to kind of start tweaking that.31500:22:31,675 --> 00:22:34,735And I don't need need to interject i just know that eventually he's31600:22:34,735 --> 00:22:38,055going to stumble on something that i could have never fathomed and that'll31700:22:38,055 --> 00:22:40,895be way better and every single time that seems to31800:22:40,895 --> 00:22:43,875be the case i'm like oh damn and then he also like31900:22:43,875 --> 00:22:46,855has the ability which this is what i really love32000:22:46,855 --> 00:22:52,175everybody in the band but but the drummer can dictate a lot in a band like the32100:22:52,175 --> 00:22:56,455drummer is basically in charge i think when we're performing especially in this32200:22:56,455 --> 00:23:04,575aspect because he has the most power but dan Dan isn't afraid and he's good at changing on the spot.32300:23:04,715 --> 00:23:08,395Like we, it's, we don't always play our tunes the exact same way.32400:23:08,415 --> 00:23:12,795In fact, we sometimes we play them very differently and a drummer can impede that.32500:23:13,015 --> 00:23:16,495If a drummer doesn't want to go where we're going, then we're,32600:23:16,495 --> 00:23:20,395we're stuck going where he goes, you know, we could fight it, but it's all.32700:23:20,495 --> 00:23:22,895So Dan has great, um.32800:23:23,915 --> 00:23:27,555I mean, and obviously he's a great drummer too, and all sorts of styles.32900:23:27,695 --> 00:23:32,655I like Dan too, because me and him go work with schools in the area too.33000:23:32,895 --> 00:23:38,175Like band directors will hire us and we'll come work with their band clinic for an hour or two.33100:23:38,275 --> 00:23:41,795And Dan's really good at that. He can take the rhythm section and he has great advice.33200:23:42,075 --> 00:23:45,875And we work good as a team because we're kind of like go out at different angles.33300:23:46,115 --> 00:23:51,875Personally, yeah, he's raising a daughter. And last snow day,33400:23:52,015 --> 00:23:56,795last year, like he came over and played Ninja Turtles with us all day on the33500:23:56,795 --> 00:23:59,015Nintendo Switch, you know, so.33600:23:59,275 --> 00:24:03,295Nothing like knowing a military man that plays that. I know.33700:24:04,135 --> 00:24:07,295Yeah. And he just sweet. He's always so chill.33800:24:07,395 --> 00:24:12,295Yeah. Like he, like he, he handles things well, where I tend to get emotional.33900:24:12,695 --> 00:24:16,415I let my emotions take over me sometimes. And then last but not least,34000:24:16,555 --> 00:24:18,795Jimmy, on a professional level,34100:24:19,355 --> 00:24:22,735we've like pretty much one of the first guys I played with when I moved back34200:24:22,735 --> 00:24:26,855to Sioux Falls, like on a first guys that I was like, kind of like,34300:24:26,935 --> 00:24:29,975oh, this, this guy is like, knows how to get gigs.34400:24:30,075 --> 00:24:35,455And, and so, or he's like showing me that, oh yeah, if I, if I hustle too,34500:24:35,675 --> 00:24:41,135I could probably do stuff also, you know, like, so I felt like I learned from him that way.34600:24:41,135 --> 00:24:47,775And musically, we have grown up together in very formative years of our development.34700:24:47,915 --> 00:24:52,515So, which on a professional level is really interesting and rare.34800:24:52,735 --> 00:24:58,195And I never take it for granted that, and it's funny and we laugh,34900:24:58,375 --> 00:25:03,155but it's also like a freaking miracle because we can do things wrong at the35000:25:03,155 --> 00:25:06,855exact, we often will do it wrong at the exact same time, the exact same way.35100:25:07,855 --> 00:25:09,395Rarely does one of us make a mistake.35200:25:10,592 --> 00:25:14,052Not with the other person. And it's weird as hell. It's like,35300:25:14,092 --> 00:25:18,272we've never played it that way before, but we did that time and we did it exactly together.35400:25:18,752 --> 00:25:22,072When we're playing next to each other, we breathe together.35500:25:22,212 --> 00:25:25,612It's like a unit because we play wind instruments too. It's a,35600:25:25,632 --> 00:25:29,452it's a, it's a, it's really compelling.35700:25:30,332 --> 00:25:34,332And it's a reason why we, people like this do it all the time.35800:25:34,492 --> 00:25:39,092You know, like when you have a connection that deep, it's really amazing.35900:25:39,092 --> 00:25:42,232Amazing like you know you get like it's almost like a form of36000:25:42,232 --> 00:25:46,252like group meditation but with36100:25:46,252 --> 00:25:50,152him it's so odd because there's a clear thing36200:25:50,152 --> 00:25:54,712happening that you could no science could explain i don't think yet today you36300:25:54,712 --> 00:25:58,592know what i mean right well quarks you know we know that the word chemistry36400:25:58,592 --> 00:26:05,312is yeah yeah that's the thing there's magic we know that you know with some36500:26:05,312 --> 00:26:06,252Some physics or whatever,36600:26:06,432 --> 00:26:10,892like, you know, you can alter a cork here and it will alter the cork across36700:26:10,892 --> 00:26:12,432the world or anywhere in the universe.36800:26:12,932 --> 00:26:16,692Like that has to be happening on a musical level. And I don't mean that lightly,36900:26:16,792 --> 00:26:19,732but something like that has to be happening.37000:26:19,772 --> 00:26:23,812There's no other explanation for it unless the processing in our brain is just37100:26:23,812 --> 00:26:26,112that amazing, which it might be. Who knows?37200:26:26,232 --> 00:26:29,452Yeah. And what I love about it is the fact that you've mentioned it.37300:26:29,492 --> 00:26:32,312Oh, here's these guys that they can impede it.37400:26:32,352 --> 00:26:35,292They can take it a certain way. and then you're going okay37500:26:35,292 --> 00:26:38,072all right and follow along but all of37600:26:38,072 --> 00:26:41,212you have this trust amongst each other37700:26:41,212 --> 00:26:44,172that it's gonna be great37800:26:44,172 --> 00:26:47,032no matter what yeah and you talk about you37900:26:47,032 --> 00:26:49,932know never playing the song the same way what are38000:26:49,932 --> 00:26:53,712rehearsals like or do you guys not have to worry about rehearsal because you38100:26:53,712 --> 00:26:57,412have all been doing it enough and you know what you're coming to the gig with38200:26:57,412 --> 00:27:01,872it kind of depends like if it's we got together before we went west river this38300:27:01,872 --> 00:27:06,232summer for a rehearsal because we hadn't played some of the tunes.38400:27:06,312 --> 00:27:07,772We were trying new tunes out. Mm-hmm.38500:27:08,675 --> 00:27:12,595And sometimes it's a matter of whoever wrote the tune just kind of wants to38600:27:12,595 --> 00:27:14,875know what it feels like in that context.38700:27:15,535 --> 00:27:20,335So we'll rehearse when there's new material like that, or if it's been a while,38800:27:20,395 --> 00:27:24,775you know, or like if we can like just get together to play some new stuff, we will do that.38900:27:24,855 --> 00:27:29,455We generally don't, unless we have a guest, like we had Andrea Ross.39000:27:29,635 --> 00:27:32,455Yes. She, she sang with us for the SDPV thing.39100:27:32,535 --> 00:27:36,115So we rehearsed with her on that way. Maybe we can get forms down if things39200:27:36,115 --> 00:27:39,795are more like we have a guest, so we need to like, they're not going to know39300:27:39,795 --> 00:27:41,155our language. You know what I mean?39400:27:41,275 --> 00:27:43,595Or like, we don't know what they're capable.39500:27:45,415 --> 00:27:48,335Like we, we can do whatever, but we don't want to make them feel uncomfortable.39600:27:48,715 --> 00:27:51,675So yeah, we, we don't really rehearse much, you know.39700:27:52,535 --> 00:27:55,515When you do, where do you rehearse? Andrew's basement. Andrew's.39800:27:55,515 --> 00:27:57,275Okay. He's got a piano and nice.39900:27:57,835 --> 00:28:01,375He's kind of got a little mini studio and a good space room for it.40000:28:01,375 --> 00:28:04,315You know, it's kind of like it's set up kind of that way. So it's pretty nice.40100:28:04,315 --> 00:28:06,435Just down the street. I know. Right here in the neighborhood.40200:28:06,675 --> 00:28:08,775We talk about that often. Yeah.40300:28:09,095 --> 00:28:12,555We should tell you sometime when you're where you can come and watch. Oh man.40400:28:12,735 --> 00:28:17,935We're usually yelling at each other and like somebody will start punching someone else.40500:28:18,035 --> 00:28:22,015Like Jan's throwing drumsticks. After everything you've said so far, I can.40600:28:23,415 --> 00:28:27,975We actually rehearsed once like in Annie Younger's studio, her painting studio.40700:28:28,155 --> 00:28:31,075And she had like a class there drawing and she was painting us.40800:28:31,075 --> 00:28:34,275She is working on this painting of us rehearsing it's freaking amazing but40900:28:34,275 --> 00:28:36,975anyway like somebody was was drawing and we were kind of like in between41000:28:36,975 --> 00:28:40,015tunes they're like are you guys always this nice to each other and we're like i41100:28:40,015 --> 00:28:45,315guess i mean this we're just talking like you know there's not like you always41200:28:45,315 --> 00:28:49,595gotta you want to navigate like make sure you listen to everyone you know like41300:28:49,595 --> 00:28:53,555sometimes people like i've played with groups coming into town like sometimes41400:28:53,555 --> 00:28:57,435you get i'm not suckered and it's good experience right but sometimes you get41500:28:57,435 --> 00:28:59,355like a call and some like Like there's a group in town,41600:28:59,455 --> 00:29:02,495they're from Chicago and they're doing tunes from, I don't know what band and41700:29:02,495 --> 00:29:03,815you're, they need a tenor sax player.41800:29:03,875 --> 00:29:08,675So you go do that and you go to the rehearsal and the MD is just angry and yelling41900:29:08,675 --> 00:29:11,235at everyone. And like, you're like, oh my God, don't screw up.42000:29:11,515 --> 00:29:14,135I don't want this guy on my ass. Yeah.42100:29:14,595 --> 00:29:19,035But then I do want them to hire me again. Yeah. And that, but maybe,42200:29:19,075 --> 00:29:22,555I mean, it's usually, I've played with a few of those groups multiple times.42300:29:22,615 --> 00:29:25,455It's fun, but it's also like, what a42400:29:25,455 --> 00:29:28,075weird world to have to live in where you're doing in42500:29:28,075 --> 00:29:31,555music and have to be yelling at somebody like what42600:29:31,555 --> 00:29:34,755the hell yeah don't you think that's uh partly i42700:29:34,755 --> 00:29:38,555i mean we talk about this so often on this show is the collaborative42800:29:38,555 --> 00:29:41,795nature of the arts community here not42900:29:41,795 --> 00:29:47,255the competitive yeah and so i'm sure that when you do work with people from43000:29:47,255 --> 00:29:52,455out of town that there are different styles yeah i was thinking about that today43100:29:52,455 --> 00:29:56,495with the front actually the competition we we have competition for sure right43200:29:56,495 --> 00:29:58,975everybody wants to get their piece piece of the pie, but everybody43300:29:59,335 --> 00:30:03,315will help each other get piece of the pie. Yeah, the idea of the competition isn't.43400:30:03,940 --> 00:30:06,500Winning because there's no winning the idea of the43500:30:06,500 --> 00:30:09,400competition is is like i was explaining this to a friend43600:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,140let's and you know what i think i've read this also in rick rubin's book the43700:30:14,140 --> 00:30:16,800creative act if you haven't read it it's amazing it's one of the best things43800:30:16,800 --> 00:30:22,100i've read in years and in one of the chapters a lot of that book just can reconfirm43900:30:22,100 --> 00:30:25,260like some things in my head that i was like am i crazy for thinking this this44000:30:25,260 --> 00:30:28,680is one of them that yeah i'm competitive i grew up doing doing sports all the time,44100:30:28,740 --> 00:30:33,440but the competition is more like, I don't, I don't get mad losing.44200:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,420It's, it's the idea of that person just showed me what I'm capable of.44300:30:38,460 --> 00:30:40,960You know what I mean? Like when I hear another saxophone player,44400:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,740I use this description, actually it played in a trio with John Bakken and Dan44500:30:44,740 --> 00:30:47,140Heyer in a trio open for us.44600:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,020And Brian Hannigan was playing sax and he's a beast.44700:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,820And, and I could have listened to that 45 minutes of him playing and thought competitively,44800:30:55,820 --> 00:30:58,600like i have to beat him but i was thinking competitively i44900:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,200was thinking like jesus this is amazing he's playing everything teach45000:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,180me he's showing me what i'm capable of but what45100:31:05,180 --> 00:31:08,360do i do next so that it it it complements that so45200:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,400it told that the competition is good because it45300:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,560teaches you it doesn't matter if you're better what45400:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,580are you going to do that's yours you know what i mean right yeah stop45500:31:17,580 --> 00:31:20,640comparing yourself to others yes it's not learn from others45600:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,820but yes it doesn't have to be that you have45700:31:23,820 --> 00:31:26,760to be the same as someone else yeah45800:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,020yeah and the beatles and the beach boys did that yeah true like45900:31:30,020 --> 00:31:33,000they were listening to each other's albums as they were making them they're like wow this46000:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,920is in it and admiration but then they're like let's make one better yep you46100:31:36,920 --> 00:31:42,200know look what happened just beautiful art you haven't bought an ewe yet have46200:31:42,200 --> 00:31:49,260you no i haven't any plans to no i don't think okay yeah nothing wrong it's46300:31:49,260 --> 00:31:52,800the only type of person I know that can pull that off. He can and it's great.46400:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,900I think they're cool like I played one before but I just don't like,46500:31:56,940 --> 00:32:01,540I love the I love the thing that the saxophone gives me too much, you know.46600:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,660Yeah. And I can't, it's hard for me to go to other, I play other instruments often but,46700:32:07,514 --> 00:32:11,554When I'm, when I'm practicing, it's the sax in my hand because it's just,46800:32:11,574 --> 00:32:16,114I have a certain amount of control over it so I can orate what I'm feeling.46900:32:16,154 --> 00:32:17,314And it's hard to let that go.47000:32:17,634 --> 00:32:21,454You know, I'd like to get a bass clarinet, a good one.47100:32:21,834 --> 00:32:25,014Really? I love that. And it feels close to a saxophone.47200:32:25,114 --> 00:32:30,254I, right now I have in my house a Contra bass clarinet, which is six foot tall47300:32:30,254 --> 00:32:33,794and I'm playing it cause they needed somebody to, because the lady who usually47400:32:33,794 --> 00:32:36,474plays it in the high plains woodwinds is going to have a baby.47500:32:36,474 --> 00:32:39,354And so paul shelf who directs that said hey would47600:32:39,354 --> 00:32:42,194you want to play contra base and i'm like well can i47700:32:42,194 --> 00:32:45,034would you have one and they're like the group does you can have it47800:32:45,034 --> 00:32:49,054and i'm like oh yes i will if47900:32:49,054 --> 00:32:53,194i can have that in my house for like the next four months which i will it sounds48000:32:53,194 --> 00:32:59,954amazing it is the coolest thing it's just and what will that be a part of that48100:32:59,954 --> 00:33:04,234the high plains woodwinds high plains and the concert is maybe i can tell you48200:33:04,234 --> 00:33:06,914when that concert is because some people may may want to go because it's kind of cool.48300:33:07,254 --> 00:33:09,394Yeah. My wife plays saxophone in it.48400:33:10,774 --> 00:33:17,154See, I did not know that. You didn't? No. High Plains, oh wait, April. It's a Sunday.48500:33:18,234 --> 00:33:22,394Oh boy. Maybe I didn't put it in. Oh my God, I better find out.48600:33:22,494 --> 00:33:24,874Yeah. I'll have to let you know at a later date.48700:33:25,554 --> 00:33:30,794Yeah, she plays saxophone in it. So. Well, excellent. Yeah. I look forward to hearing that then too.48800:33:31,294 --> 00:33:34,814But in the meantime, Saturday night you will be at Flandreau,48900:33:34,814 --> 00:33:37,614in Flandreau rather, at the Crystal Theater.49000:33:38,234 --> 00:33:43,434Some new music or basically some things you've been doing in the past and just49100:33:43,434 --> 00:33:44,914revamped or what do we have?49200:33:44,914 --> 00:33:49,434Saturday will be some new music from my album, and we're going to play a tune49300:33:49,434 --> 00:33:54,594that Dan Heyer wrote and probably some of Jeff Paul's tunes that are new that49400:33:54,594 --> 00:33:57,954a lot of people probably haven't heard, and a tune that Andrew wrote,49500:33:58,134 --> 00:34:00,634which is like we've done experiments on it.49600:34:00,634 --> 00:34:04,594But we played it, and every time it's one of those where we're finding it.49700:34:04,614 --> 00:34:08,714And the last time, we kind of did something a little bit different on the radio,49800:34:08,774 --> 00:34:09,914and it was really awesome.49900:34:10,274 --> 00:34:14,114So a lot of new stuff. There won't be much that people have ever heard us do50000:34:14,114 --> 00:34:17,554before, probably, and mostly original things.50100:34:17,914 --> 00:34:19,674Any new albums in the works?50200:34:20,694 --> 00:34:24,534No, not actively, but just...50300:34:25,411 --> 00:34:29,231Personally, for me, just it's always a reset time right now.50400:34:29,411 --> 00:34:39,491True. And it's hard to like, I feel like this just kind of waking up into doing work, good work again.50500:34:39,671 --> 00:34:45,251It's hard to reset after a big project like the last one I had because I did50600:34:45,251 --> 00:34:46,991a couple of projects with Mark Romanowski too.50700:34:47,551 --> 00:34:51,551Who still has to be on this show. Yeah. He was just on the street too. That's right.50800:34:52,311 --> 00:34:56,331But yeah, there will be stuff. I'm just trying to figure out what.50900:34:56,511 --> 00:34:59,431Okay. Well, we look forward to it no matter what. Well, thank you.51000:34:59,491 --> 00:35:01,311All right. And so you know the trick.51100:35:01,411 --> 00:35:04,851Usually there's two questions that I ask at the end, but since you've been on51200:35:04,851 --> 00:35:10,531enough and it is a new year, let's kind of go this way since you led into it51300:35:10,531 --> 00:35:13,431perfectly by talking about getting recharged and so forth.51400:35:13,611 --> 00:35:17,471Yes. Are you a resolutions person or a goal setter?51500:35:18,111 --> 00:35:23,111Hmm. No, I don't set resolutions because I don't want to set myself up for disappointment.51600:35:23,351 --> 00:35:31,051See, that's me. Yeah. And I don't, I don't set goals until I know I can execute them.51700:35:31,571 --> 00:35:37,611So I will have a possibility of a goal in mind, but I won't commit to it until51800:35:37,611 --> 00:35:41,091the commitment has to happen. If that makes sense.51900:35:42,291 --> 00:35:46,151See, for me, I'm one of those that I don't do resolution because you're right.52000:35:46,231 --> 00:35:49,291You know, usually within two weeks, everyone has broken the resolution.52100:35:49,291 --> 00:35:53,571But if you have a goal, you get to the end of the year and you can mark off52200:35:53,571 --> 00:35:55,931which ones you did and did not. Sure.52300:35:56,011 --> 00:36:02,811And then you can say, okay, were we, you know, overshooting on what we should52400:36:02,811 --> 00:36:03,951have been doing here on this one?52500:36:04,151 --> 00:36:07,831Is it something that's still attainable next year? Sure. Is it okay that it's52600:36:07,831 --> 00:36:09,611next year and it didn't happen this year?52700:36:09,691 --> 00:36:13,151And you can look at it in a variety of ways instead of beating yourself up.52800:36:13,271 --> 00:36:15,071Absolutely. Yeah. I like that.52900:36:15,311 --> 00:36:18,031Yeah. And that's kind of the way that I go. But, uh, you know,53000:36:18,031 --> 00:36:22,651I guess I have lists, you know, so a similar thing, I guess I don't think of53100:36:22,651 --> 00:36:25,551them like goals, but that's good. Good point. They are goals.53200:36:25,811 --> 00:36:29,271They're like, and I just look and see what I can accomplish and what I can't.53300:36:29,271 --> 00:36:31,371And maybe the, the like, yeah. Okay.53400:36:31,491 --> 00:36:37,111I even added a new section to everything for 2024 of work toward.53500:36:37,471 --> 00:36:41,131Sure. Yeah. Not just, you know, here's a goal. You got to get this done or not.53600:36:41,451 --> 00:36:44,491That's a good idea. Toward. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool.53700:36:45,071 --> 00:36:48,391So looking forward to that, but always look forward to seeing you on stage. Yeah.53800:36:48,471 --> 00:36:53,791And the people that you were with, obviously, are just top notch as well. So fantastic stuff.53900:36:54,091 --> 00:36:57,671All right. You did say, you know, you were competitive in sports.54000:36:58,729 --> 00:37:03,349What sports were you in? I was in bowling, fast pitch, softball,54100:37:03,529 --> 00:37:06,769football, wrestling, basketball.54200:37:07,469 --> 00:37:11,169I would have been in any sport that I could have been in.54300:37:11,209 --> 00:37:15,509But there's some that just didn't work, you know, because you just only so much54400:37:15,509 --> 00:37:18,229time, I guess, when you're a kid and your parents only have so much money,54500:37:18,309 --> 00:37:20,449you know. I had you pegged as a wrestler.54600:37:20,649 --> 00:37:24,229Oh, really? Yeah. Yes, which I was as well. That's awesome. We should wrestle.54700:37:24,349 --> 00:37:28,069You want to wrestle? Oh, we can do it. I can't care down to arm wrestling at this age, though.54800:37:28,809 --> 00:37:32,269Thumb wrestling. And I'm taking a look at your arms going, oh shit, I won't win.54900:37:33,529 --> 00:37:36,669Thumb wrestle, we'll do that. Okay, we can handle that. All right.55000:37:37,049 --> 00:37:40,149Joel Shotwell. So Saturday night, what time?55100:37:40,529 --> 00:37:46,6297.30. 7.30 in Flandreau at the Crystal Theater. How do we get tickets and how much are they?55200:37:46,849 --> 00:37:50,489I think they're only 10 bucks at the door. 10 or 15 if you go to the Crystal55300:37:50,489 --> 00:37:54,889Theater website, I think they're on there. Yeah, I know. I'm like, that's pretty awesome.55400:37:55,049 --> 00:37:58,869Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it's a great little venue, too.55500:37:59,009 --> 00:38:03,169Really cool spot. We like playing there. The people there have always been super cool. Yeah.55600:38:03,609 --> 00:38:06,969So. All right. Well, looking forward to it, my friend. Thanks,55700:38:07,029 --> 00:38:09,149man. And as always, thanks for stopping by.55800:38:09,329 --> 00:38:12,969Yeah. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. And we'll be back to wrap up the Dave Holley55900:38:12,969 --> 00:38:16,889Hour in just a moment. Comedy magician and hypnotist Jesse Moffat's right.56000:38:17,009 --> 00:38:22,649He can't play the piano, but he can sure entertain crowds with his amazing magic and clever quips.56100:38:23,189 --> 00:38:27,189His shows always make the participants the stars, especially when they've fallen56200:38:27,189 --> 00:38:30,709asleep on stage. Uh, I mean, they've been hypnotized.56300:38:31,509 --> 00:38:34,809Are you the party planner in your group? Then you owe it to your group to make56400:38:34,809 --> 00:38:37,989the event magical, even if it puts you to sleep.56500:38:38,249 --> 00:38:43,289Here's how. 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